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Archive Messages - Winter Camping in 2005

Postby bwca » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:40 pm

1 pierre 2005-02-20 15:07
Anyone winter camping this year?

I'm going into either Duncan (trout)or Ella Hall (notherns) -
haven't decided which yet - January 21. I have five days off and
will see what other lakes I feel like checking out.

I got a tent and wood stove this year - getting too old to sleep in
snow trenches anymore. Need to make a new toboggan though. The one
I have is only about seven feet long. Went out and cut some 12 foot
ash logs. Soon as the sawyer tells me they are done I'll be bending
some new toboggans.

PG
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Postby bwca » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:41 pm

2 tomnteam 2005-02-20 15:07
What did you get for a stove/tent, I'll be picking one up before I take my trips also.....

I'm about to start building 6 dog sleds....

TOM

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3 pierre 2005-02-20 15:08
Tom:

Tent (snowtrekker) can be seen at:

www.empirecanvasworks.com

Stove (one on the left) can be seen at:

www.fourdog.com/page3.html

and toboggans very much like those our family has been building for
over 100 years can be seen at:

www.ntsled.com

though we use ash - not oak. Not sure how well those oak toboggans
would hold up over the years - oak doesn't have much tensil strength.
For example - you can build snowshoes out of any hardwood - except oak.

PG


4 tomnteam 2005-02-20 15:08
I've looked at the snowtrekker and talked with Duane about it, wanted him to make a tent of my own design, it turns out he doesn't make his own tents.... so, he didn't want to make a tent for me either...... I'm a dealer for "Four dog stoves", Don makes some pretty nice stuff.....

Have you ever considered making a plastic toboggan, I'm sure you've read the "Snow walker" ? I like the wooden toboggans you build, are the plastic sleds lighter and maybe a bit more maneuverable? I have a 6+ foot pulk I've skied with all over the BWCA and into a bit of Yellowstone.....

TOM

5 pierre 2005-02-20 15:09
Tom:

I've been towing toboggans (or been with family members who were
towing them) in the BWCA and Quetico since 1958 (my familly originally
lived in that area and we lost 16 quarter sections when the gov't
declared the border lakes region a wilderness). I have a pretty good
idea of what I want along. The point of the long toboggan is to keep
a very low center of gravity. At one point, I was using short
toboggans and started to notice they had a tendency to flip more
often, on rough portages, than the long narrow toboggans, with low
profile luggage, which my family had always built.

I was once enamoured of plastic sheet toboggans because of their
flexibility - then I tried one and decided it was too flexible. This
tobaggon also had a tendency to dump on rough ground. If I were to
make a plastic sheet toboggan today, I would incorporate two ash 1"X
1" framing members (topside) to stiffen the tobboggan.

PG


6 tomnteam 2005-02-20 15:09
Pierre,

I'd like to see your winter camping list sometime, maybe others would also be interested, maybe everyone would share their own lists, and some of their winter camping methods and secrets.....

I know you need to keep the load low, my pulk gets wider toward the rear, it sorta plows a pretty nice road, it's narrow in front, and actually because of it's molded skis on the bottom is like a groomer, on return trips the trail seems groomed....

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Postby satchmoa » Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:06 pm

Great reads with lots of good info now to just move closer and use what I learned :D
I would rather be upside down in my canoe than right side up at my desk
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